PENSION UPDATION IN RBI- A DETAILED VIDEO PRESENTATION

AN RTI APPEAL BY BISWASDA

RTI Request Registration number                        DEXSW/R/2019/51218

Public Authority                                                        Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare

Personal Details of RTI Applicant:-

Name:                                                                         Mahananda Biswas

Citizenship:                                                                Indian

Is the Requester Below Poverty Line ?                No

Request Details :-

Description of Information Sought

To The Department of Ex-servicemen Welfare, Ministry of Defence

Reference:
1. MoD letter No.1(1)2019/D/(P/P) dated 14.06.2019 on constituting a committee to work out     modalities and methodology of revision of OROP with effect from 01.07.2019.
2. CGDA letter UO No. 5699/AT-P/OROP-2/Vol-II dated 24.07.2019 on requesting grant of additional time of at least three months.
3. MoD I.D. No. 1(1)/2019/D (P/P) dated 31.07.2019 requesting deliberation to be completed within shortest possible time.
My present RTI application pertains to seek information on the progress of OROP-2 revision. Please provide information on
1. Whether or not any decision has been arrived by OROP-2 committee on the modalities and methodology on revision of OROP with effect from 01.07.2019 with corresponding tables.
2. Whether or not any report / interim report has been submitted by OROP-2 committee to MoD.
Sir, I do not seek information on the content or copy of any report or table (if any). I will be satisfied only by an affirmative or negative ( YES/NO ) answer .

Concerned CPIO                                                     Ashok Kumar

The RTI Application was transferred to CGDA on 17.12.2019 ( Reg.No. CGDFA/R/2019/80477 )

CGDA Reply:

Point No. 1: No information on the point is available with this office

Point No. 2: No information on the point is available with this office

FIRST APPEAL is filed on 27.12.2019

To
The First Appellate Authority
Shri Kanwaldeep Singh, IDAS .    Jt. CGDA (pension)
O/o CGDA , Ulan Batar Road
Palam, Delhi Cantt. 110110
Reference: MoD letter No.1(1)2019/D/(P/P) dated 14.06.2019 on constituting a committee to work out modalities and methodology of revision of OROP with effect from 01.07.2019.
Please refer to the attached reply document against my RTI application bearing registration no. CGDFA/R/2019/80477.
I am not satisfied with the response offered by CPPO for fallowing reason.
The Honourable CGDA is the chair person of the committee to work out modalities and methodology of revision of OROP. I feel that it is incredible that the office of CGDA does not have any information on the status of progress of the revision process. I feel that the CPPO deliberately DENIED the information sought by this appellant.
I sought fallowing simple information
1. Whether or not any decision has been arrived by OROP-2 revision committee on the modalities and methodology on revision of OROP with effect from 01.07.2019 with corresponding tables.
2. Whether or not any report / interim report has been submitted by OROP-2 committee to MoD.
Sir, I did not seek information on the content or copy of any report or table (if any). I would have been satisfied only by an affirmative or negative ( YES/NO ) answer.
I again request you to provide the information sought by me.

OROP: Major Gen Satbir Singh write to PM requesting a meeting to discuss OROP

BANK EMPLOYEES PENSION UPDATION MOVEMENT SPREADS ACCROSS THE COUNTRY

BANK PENSIONERS PENSION UPDATION ISSUE IN PARLIAMENT

BEYOND THE UNIFORM A BOOK WRITTEN BY VETERAN M PRABHAKARAN WHICH CONTAINS ALL MATTERS AN ESM SHOULD KNOW

The book will be available at a reasonable price from the last week of Dec 2019.He is Well known for his Theory of Early Retirement compensation plan for POTO'S

VETERANS VOICE FROM JANTAR MANTAR

FELICITATION FROM VOPians ON THE OCCASSION OF THE RELEASING CEREMONY OF THE BOOK "BEYOND THE UNIFORM" WRITTEN BY OUR VETERAN M P KARAN

The book "Beyond the uniform" authored by Veteran M P Katran has been released today by the Karnataka Chief Minister in the presence of senior defence officers and veterans. He was also the key note speaker of the event.

LISTEN TO DEMOCRACY CHANNEL FOR TODAY'S OROP CASE PROCEEDINGS IN SUPREME COURT

NEXT HEARING OF OROP CASE ON 13/01/2020

Diary No.- 19818 - 2016

INDIAN EX SERVICEMEN MOVEMENT (AN ALL INDIA FEDERATION OF MILITARY VETERANS ORGANISATION REPRESENTED vs. UNION OF INDIA DEPARTMENT OF EXSERVICEMEN WELFARE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE SECRETARY

Case Details

Diary No.	19818/2016 Filed on 09-06-2016 04:14 PM PENDING    [SECTION: X]
Case No.	W.P.(C) No. 000419 / 2016  Registered on 15-06-2016
Present/Last Listed On	04-12-2019 [HON'BLE DR. JUSTICE D.Y. CHANDRACHUD and HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE HEMANT GUPTA] [CL.NO. : 0]
Status/Stage	Pending - (Motion Hearing PART HEARD MATTERS) Week Commencing (13-01-2020)-Ord dt:04-12-2019
Tentatively case may be listed on (likely to be listed on)	13-01-2020 (Computer generated)
Category	3900-Matters Pertaining To Armed Forces & Paramilitary Forces

OROP CASE PROCEEDINGS IN SUPREME COURT TODAY

OROP CASE HEARING ON 04/12/2019

Diary No.- 19818 - 2016

INDIAN EX SERVICEMEN MOVEMENT (AN ALL INDIA FEDERATION OF MILITARY VETERANS ORGANISATION REPRESENTED vs. UNION OF INDIA DEPARTMENT OF EXSERVICEMEN WELFARE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE SECRETARY

Case Details

Diary No.	19818/2016 Filed on 09-06-2016 04:14 PM PENDING    [SECTION: X]
Case No.	W.P.(C) No. 000419 / 2016  Registered on 15-06-2016
Present/Last Listed On	04-12-2019 [HON'BLE DR. JUSTICE D.Y. CHANDRACHUD and HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE HEMANT GUPTA] [CL.NO. : 5]
Status/Stage	PENDING (Motion Hearing PART HEARD MATTERS) List On (Date) (06-08-2019)-Ord dt:01-05-2019
Tentatively case may be listed on (likely to be listed on)	04-12-2019 (Computer generated)
Category	3900-Matters Pertaining To Armed Forces & Paramilitary Forces

BANK PENSIONERS PROTEST AT JANTAR MANTAR FOR PENSION UPDATION

NO PROPOSAL TO CHANGE RETIREMENT AGE OF CENTRAL GOVT EMPLOYEES

DINDIGAL TRI SERVICE VETERANS MEET 0N 23/11/2019

PRESENT STATUS OF OROP REVISION OBTAINED BY BISWASDA THROUGH RTI REQUEST

CONGRATULATION TO PONDICHERRY ARMED FORCES WELFARE ASSOCIATION

We convey our appreciation to the efforts taken by Mr soundar Rajan & his dedicated team for getting DLR Facility to deceased veterans.The Pondicherry Chief Minister Shri. Narayana swamy is felicitated on the occasion.

PATHETIC CONDITION OF ECHS PATNA

OROP- GEN SATBIR TO RESUME RELAY HUNGER STRIKE FROM 15 DEC 2019

ECHS- PROCEDURE FOR RE-IMBURSEMENT OF COST OF MEDICINES

TOO LITTLE FOR TOO MANY

A Cartoon By Biswasda

HOW MILITARY OFFICERS QUOTE PROBLEMS OF OTHER RANKS TO GET EQUAL STATUS OF IAS OFFICERS.

The officers have never projected or objected when a sepoy was equated with an unskilled labour in 6th & 7th Pay commission

PRIME MINISTER IGNORES OROP REVISION

JCO – जवानों ने हरियाणा एक्स सर्विसमैन लीग के चुनावों में रचा इतिहास

ताज़ा खबर हरियाणा के फौजी JCO जवानों ने रचा इतिहास – हमारी मुहीम थी जवानों के जमीर को जगाना और उनकी आँखे खोलना उसमें हम हुए सफल हरियाणा एक्स सर्विसमैन लीग के चुनावो में जवानों ने हराया एक से बढ़ कर एक धुरंदर को दोस्तों चुनावो में रोहतक से कप्तान सतबीर सिंह ने हराया हरियाणा एक्स सर्विसमैन लीग के प्रधान कर्नल रणधीर मालिक को जो 15 साल से अध्यक्ष पद तैनात थे, झज्झर से कपिल देव सिलानी जीते निर्विरोध, मेजर चंदरूप को हराया सूबेदार कुलदीप ने, कर्नल बलहारा को हराया एक सिपाही ने ओर सीटों के भी परिणाम आते जायेंगे और आप सब के साथ साझा किये जायेंगे | जो अधिकारी लीग को अपनी जागीर समझने लगे थे उन सबके मंसूबों पर फिरा पानी, आपको यह भी बताना चाहूँगा, यहाँ पे की हरियाणा एक्स सर्विसमैन लीग में 70 करोड़ का घोटाला हुआ है और इसकी पुष्टि शुरूआती जांच में ही हो गई थी पर राज्य सरकार ने अपने पट्ठो को बचाने के लिए इस जांच को ठन्डे बसते में डाल के रक्खा हुआ है | अब जवान – JCO आ गए हैं कमेटी में, तो इस जांच को उसके अंजाम तक पहुँचाया जायेगा और पूर्व सैनिकों और वीर नारियों के गद्दार इन अधिकारीयों को जेल के सलाखों के पीछे पहुँचाने का काम सब से पहले किया जायेगा और सरकार पर दबाव बनाया जायेगा की जाँच को फ़ास्ट ट्रैक पर डाला जाये और इन खटमल और दीमक जो जवानों और वीर नारियों के लिए आये फण्ड को चट कर गए थे इनके पेट में से वापिस निकाला जाये | जहाँ भी आप हैं यह नारा जरूर लगायें JCO – जवान एकता जिंदाबाद और ऐसा ही दुसरे राज्यों में भी दुहराएँ शेयर करने में कंजूसी ना करें और सुनिश्चित करें के लद्दाख से कन्याकुमारी और गुजरात से अरुणाचल तक यह खबर मिनटों में पहुँच जाये जय हिन्द नलिन तलवार में भी वेटेरन राष्ट्रीय प्रवक्ता साबका सैनिक संघर्ष कमेटी

FANTASTIC SERVICE GIVEN BY MOHANA RANGAN & MOHINDER SINGH MAUJI TEAM AT BARNALA PUNJAB

Mohinder Singh Mauji with a LFP solving the case of a family pensioner, at Barnala in Punjab, who is eligible for arrears approximate 12 lakhs. Together with Jovwai pension cell he has done a great service. VOP congradulates our MS Mauji & MR for the selfless service.

SHRI MOHANA RANGAN AND TEAM WITH FAMILY PENSIONERS AT TARAN TARAN PUNJAB

Today 27 LFP issues averaging Rs. 4 lakhs found out by his team in the meeting organised at TaranTaran Gurudwara.A major announcement is expected by Punjab & Haryna ESM along with Shri. Mohana Rangan.

MOHANA RANGAN CONDUCTING PENSION AWARENESS MEETING FOR FAMILY PENSIONERS AT RAMKOT NEAR UDHAMPUR

PRESIDENT JOVA MOHANA RANGAN HONOURED BY 172 MEDIUM REGIMENT

JOVWAI pension cell honooured by CO of the regiment for the service tendered to their unit's martyred families. On behalf of JOVWAI pension cell Vn. Mohanarangan Received the momento. VOP congradulates Vn. James and Mohanarangan for this achievement.

CABINET APPROVED 5% MORE DA TO CENTRAL GOVT EMPLOYEES

Cabinet approves 5% additional DA/DR due July, 2019

Posted On: 09 OCT 2019 2:39PM by PIB Delhi

The Union Cabinet Chaired by Prime Minister Narendra Modi today approved to release an additional instalment of Dearness Allowance (DA) to Central Government employees and Dearness Relief (DR) to pensioners w.e.f. 01.07.2019 representing an increase of 5% over the existing rate of 12% of the Basic pay/Pension, to compensate for price rise.  This increase is in accordance with the accepted formula, which is based on the recommendations of the 7^th Central Pay Commission. 

The combined impact on the exchequer on account of both Dearness Allowance and Dearness Relief would be Rs. 15909.35 crore per annum and Rs. 10606.20 crore in the financial year 2019-20 (for a period of 08 months from July, 2019 to February, 2020).  This will benefit about 49.93 lakh Central Government employees and 65.26 lakh pensioners.

The additional financial implication on account of this increase in Dearness Allowance is estimated at Rs 8590.20 Crore per year; and Rs 5726.80 Crore in the current Financial Year of 2019-20 (for 8 months from July 2019 to February 2020).

The additional financial implication on account of the Dearness Relief to pensioners is estimated to be Rs 7319.15 Crore per annum and Rs 4870 Crore in the current FY.

Dear Allowance/Dearness Relief is paid to Central Government employees/pensioners to adjust the cost of living and to protect their basic pay/pension from erosion in the real value. Dear Allowance/Dearness Relief is revised twice a year from 1^st January and 1st July.

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VRRK/SH/PK (Release ID: 1587487) Visitor Counter : 659

JOVA LEAD BY MOHANA RANGAN & SAABKA SANGHARSH COMMITTEE LEAD BY KAPIL SILANI ARRANGED PENSION ADALATH AT Jhajjar Haryana

On 7/10/19 Vn. Kapil Silani Gen. Secretary SAABKA SANGHARSH COMMITTEE arranged a pension grievances meet at Jhajjar Haryana assisted by N. Mohanarangan JOVA executive President and JOVWAI Pension Cell. Around 10 family pensioners and veterans attended this. It was found out that all the family pensioners are eligible for arrears and were given proper instructions for next course of action. Vn. Kapil Silani on behalf of the pensioners conveyed appriciated Jovwaipensioncell and JOVA together doing a great service.
JOVA' next program Jammu 9/10 and 10/10 : Taran Taran 11/10 and 12/10. Barnala 13/10. Maximum Martyred jawan's families are eligible for arrears. Give publicity through your groups. Be a part of our TEAM for serving the families with out any expectation.

REQUEST FOR LIVE DATA OF 2018 FILED DIRECTLY TO ARMY,NAVY, AIR FORCE PAY CELLS

Online RTI Request Form Details RTI Request Details :- RTI Request Registration number DEXSW/R/2019/51046-48 Public Authority Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare
To DESW/ ARMY, NAVY,AIR FORCE, PAY CELL Dear Sir, Kindly furnish me a copy of rank wise, group wise, length of service wise live pension data of 2018 PBOR retirees, applicable for the revision of OROP w.e.f 01/07/2019. Charges if any for copy as per rules will be sent on demand. Yours faithfully M B Chandran Menon Ex- Sgt,

MOD ADOPTS HIDE & SEEK POLICY FOR OROP REVISION

Enter Registration Number	CGDFA/R/2019/80339
Name	M B CHANDRAN MENON
Date of filing	24/09/2019
Public Authority	Controller General of Defence Accounts (CGDA)
Status	REQUEST DISPOSED OF
Date of action	27/09/2019
Reply :- Information supplied vide attach letter No. 5699/AT-P/OROP-2/Vol-II dt 27.09.2019
View Document
CPIO Details :-	AT (PENSION) c AWADESH KUMAR SRIVASTAVA Phone: 8708818286 odsharma.67@gmail.com
First Appellate Authority Details :-	KANWALDEEP SINGH (PENSION, CDA(FUNDS)) Phone: 01125665611 kanwaldeep@nic.in
Nodal Officer Details :-
Telephone Number	011-25675029
Email Id	rajeevkumar.dad@gov.in

IF AN OPTION TO EXIT ECHS IS GIVEN, 80% OF PBOR WILL SAY GOOD BYE TO ECHS

IF AN OPTION TO EXIT ECHS IS GIVEN, 80% OF PBOR WILL SAY GOOD BYE TO ECHS

KENDRIYA SAINIK BOARD CONTACT

RTI TRANSFERRED TO CGDA

DESW/CGDA/TRIPAS Dear Sir, Kindly furnish me a copy of rank wise, group wise, length of service wise live pension data of 2018 retirees received form Army, Navy & Air force pay cells for the revision of OROP w.e.f 01/07/2019. Charges if any for copy as per rules will be sent on demand. Yours faithfully

	DEXSW/R/2019/50932
Name	M B CHANDRAN MENON
Date of filing	07/09/2019
Public Authority	Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare
Status	REQUEST TRANSFERRED TO OTHER PUBLIC AUTHORITY
Date of action	24/09/2019
Details of Public Autority :- Controller General of Defence Accounts (CGDA). vide registration number :- CGDFA/R/2019/80339 respectively. Note:- Further details will be available on viewing the status of the above-mentioned new request registration number. View Status of CGDFA/R/2019/80339
Nodal Officer Details :-
Telephone Number	01123012593
Email Id	us-ic@desw.gov.in

50% of basic pay as family pension for less than 7 years Service of deceased> Amendment in Rule 54 of Pension Rules

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances & Pensions

23-September-2019 18:46 IST

 Government amends Rule 54 of CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972

 On death of a Government servant while in service, the family is entitled to a family pension in accordance with Rule 54 of the Central Civil Services (Pension) Rules, 1972. The family pension was payable at enhanced rate of 50% of the pay last drawn for a period of 10 years, if the Government servant had rendered a continuous service of not less than seven years; thereafter the rate of family pension was 30% of the pay last drawn. In case the Government servant had rendered a service of less than seven years before his death, the rate of family pension was 30% from the beginning and family pension at enhanced rate of 50% of last pay drawn was not payable to the family.

 The Government felt that the need for family pension at enhanced rate is more in the case of a Government servant who dies early in his career, as his pay at the initial phase of service is much less. The Government has, therefore, amended Rule 54 of the Central Civil Services (Pension) Rules, 1972 by a notification dated 19th September, 2019. As per the amended Rule 54, the family of a Government servant, who dies within seven years of joining service, will also be eligible for family pension at enhanced rate of 50% of last pay drawn, for a period of 10 years.

The above amendment would be effective from 1st October, 2019. However, the families of Government servants who died before completion of service of seven years within 10 years before 1st October, 2019, will also be eligible for family pension at enhanced rates with effect from 1st October, 2019.

 The benefit of amended provisions would be available to the families of all Government servants, including the personnel of CAPFs, in the unfortunate event of their death within seven years of joining Government service.

 
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, September 24
The central government on Tuesday clarified there was no proposal to tinker with the retirement age of central government officials.
A section of social media has been abuzz for a while about DoPT approving a change in superannuation rules.
Official sources toss however said: “The rumours circulating in the social media about DoPT having given clearance to a proposal for reducing the age of superannuation of central Government employees with effect from April 1, 2020, are unfounded and baseless. It has been clarified that there is no such proposal”.

कोयले के नाम से फौजी जवान - जेसीओ के 1 लाख करोड़ रूपए किसने खाए

A TRANSITION FROM THE DREAM LAND TO REALITY

THE WAY AHEAD

There is great brainstorming in VOP chatbox since past few days about snatching away weightage and pro-rata max. of the scale from us. I wonder whether those were FACILITIES or DEPRIVATION of 50% LPD. I will give my example how I (15yr X-gp Sgt) was deprived by the  so-called facilities. Weightage was of course a facility but pro-rata of max. eaten away much more than the gain.

IV CPC (1986) fixed my pension Rs.564/- as per weightage and pro-rata maximum of scale. But if I could get 50% of my LPD, I would be much much more benefitted. The pay scale for Sgt of my group was: 1460-25-1710. Even with nil increment I could be entitled for  Rs.730/- (30% more) by LPD system.

V CPC (1996) fixed my pension Rs.1478/- as per weightage and pro-rata maximum of scale. But if I could get 50% of my LPD, I would be much more benefitted. The pay scale for Sgt of my group was:  4670-85-5945. Even with nil increment the pension entitled could be Rs.2335/- (58% more) by LPD system.

Pensioners retired after Sixth CPC (2006) started getting 50% of LPD. The weightage and pro-rata of max was withdrawn but, MSP, Grade pay and X-pay (where applicable) were added to Basic Pay for Pension calculation. Can anybody show that by LPD system of VI CPC, someone's pension got reduced compared to older system?

The problem started after OROP, since OROP was not conceded to post -OROP pensioners. So after 01.07.2014, many pensioners started getting lesser than past pensioners. JCO & Hony ranks are worstly affected. Hopefully, during 2nd OROP revision, those who are getting less will be enhanced to OROP-1 X 2.57 level.

When weightage and Pro-rata was removed, nobody raised any objection. I am not aware of any objection raised from any quarter. Rather, Post VI CPC pensioners were happy because there was substantial increase in pension. Now after 13 years if the demand of weightage is raised, I doubt anybody will listen. It has been well explained in VI CPC report that weightage was given to offset the reduction of pension by Pro-rata as ESMs are retiring in early age. So as Pro-rata was removed, weightage is also removed.

As I said earlier, in OROP-2 revision, lower ranks will have some gain. From OROP-3 (if at all it is there), nobody will have any gain. We have reached almost at the end of OROP-path. We have to think of plausible demands in future, which are logical and can hold the ground of justice. Equal MSP and Enhancement of pension after 20 years of retirement are two such issues, on which we should concentrate our future demands.

An Article By Biswasda

OROP#जवानो का नाम आगे बढ़ा कर,फिर से सरकारी खजाने को लूटने का इरादा

OROP: Other Ranks के साथ साथ JCO के साथ भी हुई CGDA की नाइंसाफी

CGDA IS MISGUIDING DEFENCE MINISTER ON OROP

ROP REVISION SCENARIO:- आरटीआई के जवाब में किया विश्लेषण

हवलदार और समकक्ष तक रैंक को ओआरओपी-2 में अधिकतम लाभ मिलेगा। कम सेवा--अधिक लाभ. एक्स-जीपी ईएसएम को कुछ अतिरिक्त लाभ होगा क्योंकि 7 सीपीसी में एक्स-पे बढ़ा दिया गया है। कम सेवा वाले नायब सूबेदारों को सीमांत लाभ होंगे। उच्च रैंक और उच्च QS के लिए:- मैं कुछ भी सकारात्मक नहीं कह सकता. ओआरओपी के बाद पेंशनरों को पूर्व ओआरओपी से कम पेंशन मिल रही है, उन्हें उसी स्तर पर लाया जाएगा। उच्च रैंक और उच्च क्यूएस के लिए, यदि अधिकतम न्यूनतम का औसत किसी की वर्तमान पेंशन से नीचे आता है, तो उसकी वर्तमान पेंशन की रक्षा की जाएगी।  यह मेरी जंगली भविष्यवाणी नहीं है, लेकिन डेटा के विश्लेषण पर आधारित है. ESMs जो सीमांत या कोई लाभ होगा निश्चित रूप से निराश हो जाएगा, लेकिन वहाँ किसी को दोष नहीं है. आखिरकार, ओआरओपी वर्तमान पेंशनभोगियों के स्तर पर पूर्व पेंशनभोगियों की पेंशन लाने के बारे में है। यदि वर्तमान पेंशनभोगी कम आ रहे हैं, तो कोई समिति क्या कर सकती है? 

01.07.2014 के बाद ओआरओपी-1 के बाद कुल 42506 एनबी सूबेदार सेवानिवृत्त हुए हैं। उनमें से 35732 (84.06%) पूर्व-ओआरओपी पेंशनभोगियों की तुलना में कम आकर्षित हो रहे हैं। ये 100% प्रामाणिक आंकड़े हैं। अब आप ओआरओपी-2 में एनबी सूबेदारों की वृद्धि की संभावना को समझ सकते हैं। हालांकि, कम सेवा वाले कुछ एनबी सब्डरों को मामूली लाभ होगा। X-Gp Nb Subeders भी कुछ लाभ होगा. ओआरओपी के बाद सेवानिवृत्त होने वाले सिपाही 5.05%, नाइक 1.93% और हवलदार 3.01% पूर्व ओआरओपी पेंशनभोगियों की तुलना में कम हो रहे हैं। इसलिए इन तीन रैंकों और उनके समकक्ष रैंकों के लिए पर्याप्त वृद्धि होगी। एक्स-जी पी वृद्धि के लिए थोड़ा और अधिक हो जाएगा।
 

OROP REVISION SCENARIO :- AN ANALYSIS BY BISWASDA FROM THE RTI REPLY RECEIVED BY HIM

Ranks up to Havildar and equivalents will get maximum benefit in OROP-2. Lesser the service--more the benefit. X-Gp ESMs will have some extra benefit as x-pay has been hiked in 7 CPC. Nb Subedars with lesser service will have marginal benefits. For higher ranks and higher QS :- I can not say anything positive. Post-OROP pensioners getting lesser pension than Pre-OROP will be brought to same level. For Higher ranks and higher QS, if the average of max & min falls below one's present pension, his present pension will be protected.
 This is not my wild prediction, but based on analysis of data. ESMs who will have marginal or no benefit will surely be disappointed, but there is nobody to blame on. After all, OROP is all about bringing the pension of past pensioners to the level of present pensioners. If present pensioners are drawing less, what can any committee do?
 Total 42506 Nb Subedars have retired after OROP-1- i.e., after 01.07.2014. Out of them 35732 (84.06%) are drawing lesser than Pre-OROP pensioners. These are 100% authentic figures. Now you can understand the possibility of hike of NB Subedars in OROP-2. However, Some of the NB Subeders with lesser service will have marginal benefits. X-Gp Nb Subeders also will have some benefits.
Out of post-OROP retirees, Sepoy 5.05%, Naik 1.93% and Havildar 3.01% are getting lesser than Pre-OROP pensioners. So there will be substantial increase for these three ranks and their equivalent ranks. For X-Gp hike will be a bit more.