CIRCULARSOROP CIRCULAR 555 |
1)In case of JCOs & ORs the figures shown in three Circulars ie 547, 430 and 501 are important Data to be taken in to account for arrears calculation.
There will thus be three Figures to be noted from these 3 circulars given above :-
(A) Basic pay as per circular 547 from 01 Jan 2006 to 30 June 2009.
(B) Basic pay as per circular 430 from 01 Jul 2009 to 23 Sep 2012.
(C)Basic pay as perCircular 501 from 24 Sep 2012 to 30 Jun 2014.
Fill the above three Data in the corresponding Shells of the drawn column of the calculator to get your arrears amount.
D) If you have drawn more than MGP in any one of the above A,B,C Please give MGP as the drawn figure.Your Group Shown in 547 Should be selected as your Group in the Calculator & not the Group shown in OROP
PLEASE NOTE
1) ALL RECRUITS BOARDED OUT WITH SERVICE ELEMENT OF PENSION ARE ELIGIBLE TO GET MGP IN THEIR GROUP & ARREARS UNDER Cir 568 IRRESPECTIVE OF THE LENGTH OF SERVICE.
2) ALL CONFIRMED SOLDIERS BOARDED WITH LESS THAN 15 YEARS OF SERVICE & DRAWING SERVICE ELEMENT ARE ELIGIBLE TO GET MGP AS PER Cir 568 IN THEIR RANK & GROUP
I once again remind you of the principle of any software -Garbage in Garbage out (GIGO)
Best of Luck
Mr.MBC sir,thanks a lot for the yeoman service you voluntarily put up to educate this enmass veterans who are
ReplyDeleteignorant of rules and regulations.May be I am wrong but I am unable and perplexed to digest the sentence that 50% of the pay in the fitment table(running pay band )is per se the pension for all.Can you ,as an experienced man, throw some some light,that whether it is interpreted in the true and right sense.
Dear veteran, I will try to explain you. 50% 0f min of pay in pay band plus gde pay plus MSP plus X pay if applicable as per fitment table. If you retired as Hav X Gp, your 5th CPC pay scale was 4150 100 5650, then your min pay was 4150, As per fitment table 4150 x 1.86 plus Gde pay 2800 plus MSP 2000 plus X pay 1400 equals 13920 its 50% is 6960 is your pension. Hope you understood.
DeleteMr. Ranganath please use DC generator for light to be thrown in your views!
DeleteMr.MBC sir,thanks a lot for the yeoman service you voluntarily put up to educate this enmass veterans who are
ReplyDeleteignorant of rules and regulations.May be I am wrong but I am unable and perplexed to digest the sentence that 50% of the pay in the fitment table(running pay band )is per se the pension for all.Can you as an experienced man throw some some light,that it is interpreted in the true sense
How much will be DL33 arrears and also how much will be 7thcpc arrears.please can you tell me for pee 2006 sgt adso retd sep2000.
ReplyDeleteSir,
ReplyDeleteKindly prepare a chart as you have done earlier!
Chart prepared by desw.gov.in is matching with this calculation.
DeleteChart already in desw.gov.in sitr
Deletethanks sir,very usepull
ReplyDeleteThanks Mr MBC Sir, a very useful calculator has been provided.
ReplyDeleteSir, while going through PCDA(P) C.No 568 Para 9, I wonder Hony,Nk/Hav and Hony Nb Sub have not been given any benefits as they are/were drawing same pay scale of Sepoy, Naik, and Hav respectively. I hope this is injustice as there was separate scales in OROP charts.Second point is that the charts for seniors in ranks/service have not been revised/increased once juniors pensions increased.One rank, one pension orders were NOT applicable during period from 01.01.2006 to 30 Jun 2014. MOF/MOD/CGDA/PCDA(P) babus what were they doing for the period from 06 Apr 2016 to 13 Oct 2016 and they have delayed issue of GOI,MOD,DESMW letter dt 30 Sep 2016 & PCDA(P) C.No 568 for this small 3 page letter.These charts were to be issued in detail for every half year/yearly increase due to 3% increments increase on 01 Jul each year.If, I am correct, please refer this to Army/AF/Naval IHQ.
ReplyDeleteNs Gill ji No Service value have given ti 24 Years ,17 years get more pension and more benifit 24 years get 0 benifit wave what a great dessicion, the commission has made as a fool for service person,
DeleteThose who did not get arrear of circualr 547 will now their will be calculated circular 397 wef 01jan 2006 is this correct
ReplyDeleteVery nice effort 😊 thank you - by Ex-Sgt Govindarajulu.R.
ReplyDeleteGood calculator, however one mistake. If the arrears figure is negative, its to be taken as zero. Please amend if I am wrong, Thanks
ReplyDeleteVery good effort and contribution to facilitate calculation of legitimate dues by mily.The listing of relevant circulars prior to 567&568 is great.
ReplyDeleteFirst calculate and get your arrears.
Later ,intellectuals and experienced can work on analysis & anomalies for necessary rectifications/corrections or additions.
That is a continuous processes.mily has to apply their mind and work.nobody will give on their own ,as experienced in past
.mily has to project -ask ,and derive.
what will be the arrears of Honorary N/Sub?
ReplyDelete17 Yeas service getting more benifit 24 yeras getting very very less benifit, No service value has given
DeleteMani Sir , it is not commission decisions. JCOs already getting much and also paid the arrears.
DeleteMoreover, Hav case a Havildar was getting equalent pension to sepoy.
More over when a person leave Military service with 14 years 11 months and 29 days he get nothing.
As per your thought why should he not paid for his 14 year 11 months Nd 29 days. Has any one raised earlier.
DL33 is a SC decision not commission.
I think you got me.
Thanks a lot.
ReplyDeleteThis is regarding Find Pension and Arrears Regarding. When selecting BANK= IOB is not listed. May i know more about this issue. Ex Sgt KMM
Sir please tell me what benefit to a jco of x go having 30 years of service in the DL 33.
ReplyDeleteDesr elangoven sir No service value for jcos,the commission was makking as a fool,
DeleteDesr elangoven sir No service value for jcos,the commission was makking as a fool,
DeleteDear Nani sab, Sub Maj X Gp with 30 years of service are already getting 50% of Max pay scale even though not reached max of scale. Thos DL 33 is only benefitted for less service people those who didnot get even 50% of min scale. Hope uoy understood. Sub Maj Prakash Pattar
DeleteThe information disseminated by SBT vide the item"find pension and arrears paid" is an year old information and obviously has not been updated for long. CPPC of SBT may be advised to update the site
ReplyDeleteJwo sukumaran sir further in defence No service value 17 Can get 28 years pension, wave what a great commission decission
DeleteRegarding more services benefits for more service a person get more gratuity, more PF and more pay.
DeleteDecision of SC is very much acceptable
You see how much gap between Hav and Nb subedar is it right ?
Let us accept cheerfully. No one was listening us prior to Modi Ji
It seems that masses of Veterans are ignorant of their entitlements to the extent that theirs which serving pension is to be delinked & what is the state of affairs wherre PIL had been filed becoz what had been done by MOD is the correct pension vide 430 or 501 which are egual to post2006 had to be delinked for PBORs. PBORs ate being fooled. Officers are already getting full pension by retiring after 28+ yrs of service.The left out SSC/ AMC & VRS cases of PMR/ Disability/ War injured are eligible for MGP.If at all few rare cases would be affected that PCDA is taking care of as PDAs are asked to refer such cases whose existing is higher than MGP now on DL.
ReplyDeleteAll Hon.ranks & Sub Maj/ eqv.are getting Full pension. A few Subedar/ eqv.would be benefited very little for 1 or 2 less QS of 33 on DL & Sepoy/ eqv.already getting full by weghtage of 12 yrs vide 501 is equal to Full pension for 15 yrs as entitled. The Naik to Nb.Sub/ equivalent are the worst affected.
Present Arrear Calculator is no way correct once correct pension is not Delinked by 568.
Know ur rights.
Kirpal Rana ji Realy the commission Is make the Jcos as a fool Lower service is getting moer pension
Deleteso that theywill mum, Lower service Happy higher service is weepy, un justice commission for jcos, why this pasvaluty and parity, very worst for service jcos, further it is better to give the jcos duty to officer, The Rank pay may give only up to Nco and then officer, so that every body is trying to suffer jcos equalent rank in the army.
Oh pay commission& and misguided higher officers u have to understood if the jcos equalent Rank not in the the army it very deficulty pull on the defence,pl understood and be the junine during the oay commission,
DeleteWhat is wrong with the calculators
DeleteThis principle is
ReplyDeleteLESS SERvICE MORE PENSION
MORESERVICE IS LESS PENSION
Then where is the service value,
15and 17 years of service can get 28 and 33 years pension wave what about service value is it 15.17 Is equal to 33 years setvice Service pay must be given additional service those who had done more then 17 years ( ye tho service valong ko fool banathiya gaya hai Officers 5 Years service getting 15600/ PBOR gtting 500 to 1000/ All the commission is making as a fool for PBOR, No one of the indian pay commission is junune for PBOR all are one sided,
I heartily thanks Mr. Menon for his efforts for ex-servicemen.
ReplyDeleteGod bless you.
M.B.Sir,
ReplyDeleteThanks a lot for very much useful information
M.CHANDRAIAH EX.SGT
While going through PPOs of veterans coming to me for calculation of their arrears, I have observed that pension given in Govt/P CDA(P) circulars wef 01.01.2006 only is higher by about Rs.90/95/ 100/110/115 whereas given in PPO is less, thus those veterans who are not in possession of PPOs get less arrears or dependent on the mercy of PDA/DPDO for checking their pension correctness. These higher figures have been reflected in calculation chart published in EX SERVICEMEN WELFARE blog. PDAs/DPDOs in my region of MALWA(Punjab) are not yet crediting pension on scale given in PCDA(P) Circular No 501 instead 24 Sep 2012 and wef 01.01.2006.
ReplyDeleteMr. Vajir Singh Nain
ReplyDeleteCould you get from comment of Mani S , what is wrong with calculations of 568.
Basic pension as on 24.09.2012 need to be Delinked which comes higher than MGP & is legitimate.More QS more pension, refer para 5.1.60 of 6th CPC Report.
Yes,got it.
DeleteNow trainees will run away from the forces on med/other grounds and will still enjoy dl33 benefits.border ko kaun sambhaleya. Politicians and officers ka baap?
ReplyDeleteThere grandfathers
DeleteAfter going through comments, it is crystal clear that JCOs are ignorant that they were given maximum pension of their slab on retirement wef 01 Jul 2009 due to length of service + weightage.Pay scales are attached to PCDA(P) C No 565 & 567 for ref. Sep, Naik Hav and Majors were the worst hit categories who were not having full service even with weightage.However, injustice have done to seniors as their pension was to be proportionatelly increased due to length of their service like charts of OROP PCDA(P) Circular No 555.Brig CS Vidyasagar and Col SK Sharma already put their comments once GOI, MOD,MOP,PG&Pensions,DP&P Welfare letter No 38/37/08-P&PW(A) dt 06 Apr 2016 was issued. What about those officers from ranks with more than 35 years or more QS but getting pension of 22 years QS?
ReplyDeleteMr.NS GILL,
ReplyDeletePBORs are not ignorant becoz 6th CPC had done something right but MOD does not wish to pay the arrears vide PCDA 568. For PBORs only the correct revised pension for pre 2006 Based on Notional pay equal to post 2006 from 01.07.2009 / 24.09.2012 vide PCDA 430/ 501 are not delinked which is legitimate pension as provided by dismissal of SLP s. of GOI. CIVILIANS & Defence civilians are paid the the correct arrears by delinking the Revised Pensions which were implemented from 24.09.2012.
Why not for Armed Forces pensioners pre 2006. How MGP comes for arrears of Reting / Serving pension, MGP is min PENSION paid for 15 YRS of QS. Refer 6th CPC para 5.1.61 "More pension for more QS" based on increments or last pay drawn.
Sir, Hony Lt and Hony Capt awarded to a Sub Maj on completion of his qualifying service not to premature, either he served 22 years or 32 years and at the time of retirement basic pay in both case is same, than why difference between basic pension of Sub Maj Hony Lt and Hony CApt in OROP Table
ReplyDeleteif the difference between basic pay wide circular 568 and 430 is negative the total arrear payment should be zero as higher basic payment is retained. corrrect me if I am wrong
ReplyDeleteMr. Venugopal N
ReplyDeleteWe wish to collect such data of cases like you. Plz post the details of ur Rank, QS, Basic vide 430 & Basic vide 568. You are absolutely correct if arrears are in negative, ur areears will be Zero since there is no provision of reduction otherwise MOD/ PCDA will definitely do it.
What is done in 568 that is already authorised in para-3 of PCDA 551 as silent clarification of 547 to save their skin in SC.
Also it is clarified that pensions will be paid for the Rank last held " not the rank pensioned/ substaintive"
Plz quote ur contact no. Or mail id.
Thanx.
KS Rana
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Yes,agreed to
ReplyDeleteTill date arrear is nt credited,does any body got it.
ReplyDeleteSir,
ReplyDeleteI am an ex-sgt X group with 15years pre2006 pensioner .Am I eligible for DL 33 arrears.If so where I can get the order.Kindly help me to claim the mentioned arrears.
With regards.
Please write your service particulars
DeleteMy DOD 31.5.2005. Rank Last Held for five months. What is my basic pension as per Circular 568 and 570? Please guide.
ReplyDeleteBijendra dubey AS per GOI MOD No 1(13)/2012/D(Pen/Pol) dated 17-02-2013. AndPCDA pension circular 430 dated 10-03-2010 .Revised pension Rs 11970/- wef 01-07-2009.This pension amount is applicable wef 01-01-2006 as per above orders. My pension fixation was Rs 9324/- wef 01-01-2006 as per 6 cpc.The differences of pension for arrears RS 2646/-+ DA for 42 month is due for payment.PCDA pension circular no 547 dated 11-09-2015 and 549 dated 30-09-2015 .IF any arrears benifited the amount to be paid' But arrears is not paid till date' GOI MOD letter no 1(13)/D (2012)Pen/Pol) dated 17-01-2013 circular no 501 dated 17-01-2013 ,My pension is not revised as per above order and circular and written in revised column NO CHANGE. Therefore same pension which is revised wef 01-07-1009 ,to be applicable wef 01-01-2006. emailID Bijendradubeyeme@gmail Please reply,
ReplyDeleteMG Manon thanks Sir for providing useful information especially disabled Army person whose service less than 15years
ReplyDeleteWhen arrears likely to be paid by SBI?
ReplyDeletesome banks have not been included in the list viz IOC UCO etc who will think for pensioners of these banks else they should divert their pension from these banks to other nominated banks.
ReplyDeletesecondly this is exactly right that sub majors have already exceeded their emoluments and getting 50% can any one explain how? As per their previous scale or notional pay. Likewise scale comparing of lower ranks their cases have been considered notionally and not the JCOs really JCOs ranks have been discarded the vehicle 1 x ton as was said before implementation of 6th CPC
Thanks
The circular no 568 and 570 is not visible on the sight. How we are commenting on these issues is not understood. Pl confirm. Thanks
ReplyDeleteDear sir
ReplyDeleteI am retire in sep 2005 and my pension start in 2006. Can i eligible for dl33 or not?
26 yrs of service JWO IAF Y Gp retired in 2000 what would be arrs for 33 DL & what will be basic revised pension after 7th cpc.
ReplyDeleteTilll today not received the DL 33 arrears.how much will be my. Arreart
ReplyDeleteDear veterans I myself spoke to CPPC head PNB Karolbagh today on 03rd Jan 2017 and he told me that PNB is releasing delinking amount tomorror positively.Please have patience till tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteSorry before writing this comment i forgot to give my identity.I m ex RPO retired in 1997 from navy after serving for 15 years.
ReplyDeleteSir,
DeleteMy name is Kannan KG from Kerala. I problems that I didn't got 33 yrs arrears>My bank is Central Bank of India ,Alleppey,Mullackal, Keral. You are request to instruct the bank for issue arrears please.
My DOD is 30.06.2000 from IAF. I have not yet received my DL-33 payment from Allahabad Bank. Have anybody got it from Allahabad bank. Please confirm.
ReplyDeleteHave anybody got DL33 arrears from PNB PL confirm
ReplyDeletePnb has paid d arrear to most of the pensioner
ReplyDeleteplease let me know the name of pnb branch which paid the dl 33 arrera
ReplyDeleteMy pension is being paid by Pnb. I retired from rank of have. I still not received arrears for dl 33 years
ReplyDeleteHave anybody got DL-33 arrears from PNB. please confirm
ReplyDeleteI still not received arrears for delinking 33 yrs service. I am drawing pension from PNB bank. Any body from PNB received arrears
ReplyDeleteSir I am invalided out med.cat.EEE and my service pension 2006 was rs.2824 sumthing and from 2009 my pension revised rs 3500.from the last day of OROP.and after OROP getting rs 5453.please confirm me now much pension increase from 2006 as sepoy.
ReplyDeleteM.KUMARSWAMY EXSGT 642450 AFFIT15yrsSYNDICATE BANK not pm dl33 kindly confirm.
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ReplyDeleteRespected Sir,
ReplyDeleteIt is to inform you that I am an Ex-Recruit having Army No. 4552781 of Mahar Regimental Centre, Saugor. I have already boarded out with Cat E (20% disability) on 07.12.1981 having 7 months and 28 days service. Now my disability was below 10% after RSMB and disability element has been discontinued from 08.12.1986.I am getting service element Rs.132,241 /- ( as per 7th pay Commission Report) with usual DA from time to time.
A circular has been issued by the CDA (P), Allahabad vide Circular No.568 dt.13.10.2016. Though, I have already discharged out of Medical Cat-EEE on 07.12.1981, Pre-2006 pension has not been revised. OROP & 7th Pay have been implemented in my service element.
In No.Gts/Tech/E.mail/148/Vol-XXVI dt.09.12.2016 of the Sr. AO (Pen), CDAP, Allahabad addressed to S.K. Santhiah, Chief Liasion Officer, Ex-Servicemen and Social Welfare Trust (Exwel) , No.15G, Military Lines, Samanthanapuram, Palayamkottai, Tirunelveli, Tamil Nadu-627002, it is state that service alement and disability element will be revised as per lowest group Sepoy ie.Z group in Circular No.568 dt.13.10.2016 and Y group in OROP. It is a clarification –Circular No.568-Revision for recruits and reservists. But, the CPPC, Bhubaneswar, Odisha advised me through their mail that in Cir-568 there is no provision for arrear payment to "RECRUIT". They will do the needful only when circular instruction is received from PCDA, Allahabad.
Hence, you are requested to please look into the matter for revision Pre-2006 pension & de-linking of 33 qualifying service for which I shall be highly obliged.
With regards.
KSHIRASINDHU BEHERA
EX-RECRUIT No.4552781 P
Mob:- No.09861675992
My DOD is 30/11/96. So far didn't received the DL33 arrears.I am getting pension from U C O bank.
ReplyDeleteDear Sir,
ReplyDeleteMy E Mail ID is : shankaranarayana14@gmail.com
I am Sub Clk In Gp B discharged from Service on 01 Nov 2013. I have not received and Fitment arrears from 01 Jan 2006 to 01 Jun 2009, as
per your replies as I have seen. Please send me arrears calculator for pre 2006 pensioners (ex Servicemen)
Name : S. Shankara Narayana
Date of Joining : 26 Sep 1976
Rank Held at the time of Discharge : Subedar Clerk in Group B
Date of Discharge : 01 Nov 2003
Total Length of Service : 27 Years
Service/ Corps : ARMOURED CORPS (Record Office. at AHMEDNAGR (Maharshtra)
I was discharged by virtue of Age factor, I have completed 52 years .
I have received only the Diiferrence of pay from 01.01.2016 to 01.10.2016 nearly 45,000/- only.
(for ref : My Brother awas also a Exservicemen from the Corps of Engineers (MEG) He has 21 years of Service from 1966 to 1987
He got 7th cpc arrears Rs 38,000/-
Fitment arrears 01.01.2006 to 30.06.2014 is 81282/=.Both credited to his account.
Please give the details of the Fitment ARREARS FROM 01.01.2006 TO 30.06.2016. Please help me in this case.
With hope getting an early reply soon.
Warm Regards,
S. Shankara Narayana
Dear Sir,
ReplyDeleteI am drawing pension from Treasury.When I claimed the arrears for pre-2006 pensioners as per PCDA Circular No.568, they don't know how to calculate the arrears. I was boarded out from service on medical ground. I was enrolled in the service on 20-10-1973 and got discharge on 13-09-1974 as a Ex Rect. At the time of discharge my Group was "E" Group. Sir, please tell me what will be my basic pension as per circular No.547,430 and 501 respectively. My eMail ID is binoysingh6464@gmail.com. Yours faithfully, W. Binoy Singh Imphal, Manipur.
Hi
ReplyDeleteSaab,
ReplyDeleteI Navin Singh Chouhan was retired in Jan.2003from Indian Navy as a L/S.my pension account is in Dena Bank
Khandwa (MP),saab I am still waiting for arrears of 33 yrs
delinking pension.
please help me and like other veterans who is having account in Dena Bank.
regards,
Sir, I am pensioner at Boi Bhiwani ex Po navy 2003.Ididn't got my pre 2006 dues to date. I also approached cppc Nagpur via mail & post many times but I vain no reply or dues till now. Mostly my batch mate got the same in Nov-Dec 2016.So I request to help in this regard. Pappu Ram Ex Po 171437F pen. A/C 67701200017772 bank of India Bhiwani Hr. Pls.look after, Thanks..
ReplyDeletesir,
ReplyDeleteI am Ex Navy LS and my pension account is in Dena bank.
I am still waiting for my 33 yrs.delinking pension arrears.
I am retired in Jan.2003.
Is any of my friend who is having there account in Dena Bank has received the same please let me know.
Hi,sir Aap me se kisi ko paths hair
ReplyDeletekya ki 7th pay commission Defense pensioners ko kab milane wala hai ? Please bataye, Thank you :)
I am Ex-Sgt X group drawing pension from Central Bank Of Indis, Sector-14 Nayabans, NOIDA. The bank is yet to pay arrear acrued as per PCDA circular No.568. I find Centarl Bank Branch personel are not much aware of all even after completion of my drawing 15 years of pension to make it a full pension i.e to add commuted portion, I myself had to do calculation. may be these calculation can be done at their (Bank's)zonal headquarter and ready made tables for each rank can be circulated to each branch under it's jurisdiction. It is high time for bank to disburse arrear in time or else pay higher interest on the total arrear due against each individual pensioner. Hope this plea can reach to some one on helm of this affairs. Thanks & regards.
ReplyDeleteParth. P Chakraverty- Ex-Sgt. (X group)
I am ex Hav/Clk of Y Group drawing pension from PNB. I think as yet all the bankc have paid arrear on account of PCDA circular No. 568. You should contact your CPPC office if needful is not being done by the nank.
ReplyDeleteI am Ex-Sgt Satyajit Das, discharged from IAF on 28Th Nov 2005.My pension Account with United Bank Of India. I have not given with Delinking pension arears till date. Can anyone who is having pension account with UBI has received subjcet arears?
ReplyDeleteSir, I am ex hav biswajit das retd on 31.03.2002 till date delink arrears not credited by united bank of India, dhakuria branch. My service no 2680101 and a/c no 0089010204820. Pl response.
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ReplyDeleteMyself Govind Kandari POPOR TEL retired in June 1994. Dena Bank in Mumbai have still not paid arrears. I did contacted CPCC. Initially they replied that they are working on it. Later stopped responding to my reminders. I want to take RTI approach. Please help me
ReplyDeletesir it's RITA RANI w/o late Lakhbir Singh Service no 5043885 gorkha regiment .sabathu centre allow me special family pensions. but Allahabad not paying .I am sending letters again and again. but no one is reply. Plz help me. 7527833730
ReplyDeleteWhat a data of un-ambiguity and preserveness of precious experience on the topic of unexpected emotions.
ReplyDeletehI VETERANS, I AM BALMIKI SINGH ,AN AIR VETERAN RETIRED IN NOV,1983 AFTER RENDERING ACTIVE SERVICE FOR 18YRS AND ONE MONTH. CAN SOME INFORMED VETERAN COMPUTE MY DL 33 YRS AREARS. MY PRESENT BASIC PENSION IS Rs 22923 /-- I HAVE CIRCULARS 547, 430,501,BUT NOT CIRCULAR NO 568. I SHALL BE THANKFUL FOR MY REQUESTED INFORMATIONS.
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