Why less MSP for Jawan/JCOs, because they accompanied by officer’s and convinced without reality. One of the reason why Jawan/JCOs are not getting their due is that Armed Forces Officers holding on all senior posts and they always cry for their self benefits and no one is interested in the welfare of Jawan/JCOs. In Indian Armed Forces, the officer only represent their problems to Government. Their point of is never taken up and there is no one to listen to the cries of their welfare. Anybody who thinks rationally can understand that MSP should be equal to all ranks. Why not Military Service Pay should be same for all ranks. A clear case of gross injustice with Jawan/JCOs in Military Service Pay. Since officers/JCOs/Jawans are serving in the same climatic, harsh and stress environment then why the 7th CPC showing parity. But these officers ,by leveraging the hardships of ordinary soldiers, wants to bargain more and more from the Government. They want equal pay as an IAS officer. Anybody who knows about the responsibilities of both cadres knows that the demand is totally absurd and therefore should not be accepted by the Government. When they open the discussion they project only the problems pertain to them and completely forget their other ranks. They never want to accept Junior Commissioned Officers (JCOs) as junior officers and still consider an PBOR's (Personal Below Officers Rank). They don’t want to see a Jawan/JCOs sitting at higher post and never they shouldn’t be allowed to represent in pay commission. In Armed Forces officers life like heaven and PBOR's like hell. An officer in Armed Force is practically living like a king.The apathy of a soldier is being used by the officers cadre in various forums for their advantage and betterment.All this despite the so called OLQs (Officers Like Qualities) present in them.
But again in seventh pay commission the report recommended to grant allowances relating to risk and hardship for Siachin glacier recommended by 7th CPC for Service Officers from ₹21,000/- to ₹31,500/- and JCO/ORs from ₹14,000/- to ₹21,000/- and MSP @ ₹15500/- for officers , ₹10800/- for Nursing officers and ₹5200/-only for the Jawan / JCO's , who are directly involve in hostile operation / LoC/ Insurgency area and deployed along the "Siachen glacier", the world coldest and highest battle field, fighting at border and facing live bullets gets Military Service Pay (An allowance for danger to his life) where as Officers who are sitting in comfort ACs/ Heaters in the base and full support of Sahayaks around them recommended three times MSP then Jawan/JCOs. What is the working of Nursing Officers ? They are never involved in any hostile operations and employed with secured Hospital. When a soldier is hurt by bullet or wounded in operation a Nurse in Hospital who treats his wounds gets ₹ 10800/- for holding Officer status. Why not Military Service Pay should be same for all ranks. What a injustice again created by the Govt due to silence mode of Armed Forces Officers , is it correct are they fighting for Jawan/JCOs no they all are creating a drama only for their requirements , that's why Jawan/JCOs are against such type of activities/people's.
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When such a vital post in Siachen glacier captured by Honorary Captain (Then Naib Subedar) Bana Singh won the Param Vir Chakra, India's highest ranking gallantry award, with Martyr NaibSubedar ChuniLal, Ashok Chakra, Vir Chakra, Sena Medal ,soldier of 8th Battalion Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry (8 JAKLI) of Indian Army, and Government decorated them such a honour's then why not considered for pay and perks. Total casualties ratio between officers and Jawan/JCOs is 33 : 883 in Siachen glacier. What a huge difference ! Justice Mathur and members of 7th CPC had considered this casualties ratio and ground reality. All the issues which are raised by MOD are only for the benefit of officers,no welfare of Jawan/JCOs. No welfare of promotion, living accomodation,and pay perks, Officers are getting more facility then a officer of other department as Vehicle with driver ,steward,cook etc are given at cost of Government in lakhs.
This is the duty of every Pay commission to Protect the lives of Jawan/JCOs who are guarding our frontiers and the risky areas must be higher priority along with attractive pay and allowances. It is not just a Pay Commission issue. In addition to give proper training all soldiers they must be equiped with the best and sophisticated weapons and communication sets . Night duty must be provided with night vision glass and movement with sensitive equipments, star-war related the "GPS" (satellite equipment) must be developed to our topographical. Obtain the weapon training from major world friendly country as America, Russia, Britain and Israel. Prepare every soldier a man of ready by physically and Intellectually the willingness to serve the nation and pay them up right above a Civilian Counter part. We have about 15,67,390 lakhs of ex-servicemen and they are a great support to servicemen and most exservicemen have at least a son or grandson in service, pay them better pension and benefits. Troops can be exploited again and again. but when their limit ends,everything get end. As you are aware the Armed Forces themselves cannot convey their feeling to Government directly, or go on strike. It is only Ex servicemen like us who can vouch their concerns. Reserve some quota as a Member of the Parliament, so that they can raise their Voice for their grievances or ready for another 1857, this is a dangerous situation.
Jawans who earn a mere low pay and perks spending their time in Siachen and Kargil awake while the rest of the country gets a good sleep. A jawan sacrifices his family and his life in the battle, he goofs up a bit, thats the end of his career, demotion, court martial etc. Jawan/JCOs and Veterans have been cheated by the 7th CPC their pay scales and status have been lowered over the decades which has affected their moral badly. Do not let them reach the point of no return? It is time for the all GPs of Ex Servicemen to express their disgust, in a manner that shall force the Govt to consider the damage the 7th CPC recommendations are doing to the fibre of the Services. Forgetting about our narrow self interests and benefits all the Ex Servicemen of three services must join hands and make it clear that the Govt has to attend to the issues raised. Surely it is not mutiny. But if they didn't do something solid in a reasonable time frame the damage could be irreversible. Justice A K Mathur, the waves of protests that are comming from Armed forces as well other Ex Servicemen in various web sites is a clear indication of intentional injustice done to the Jawan/JCOs of Armed forces in your pay commission's report. You stand to an explanation to all this. It is better for you to stand in a terrorist infested area along with your team and get shot.Then only the arm chaired, AC room Neo Managers like your team will come to know what is like serving Armed Forces.
Why these senior retired officers waking up after retirement?There has been flood of TV interviews by retired Generals. I have a question to ask. Why now? why you didnt raise your voice when you were in service? At that time you accepted whatever shit was thrown at you and suddenly now you have grown concern for lesser mortals? Stop this, as such the forces are a demoralised and when they see the interview from someone who have licked their way up and now opening their mouth then it further demoralsies them.
Armed Forces of a country is mirror image of the country, a happy Army means a happy nation alas the contrary is also true, in any case we as nation were ruled by Mughals, Britishers for centuries but have failed to learn our lesson. History is a teacher and time will again teach us to learn from history and past mistakes, but fools are known to commit the same mistake again and again. Will the Government take notice and act ? The media and veteran associations need to take these issues up for resolution. Ex Servicemen are completely disappointed with this 7th CPC. This is not pay commission but punishment commission. What are our Chiefs of the services doing?They are totally mum on this grave issue of 7th CPC. It's a clear disappointment for Jawan/JCOs. Discontentment with Jawan/JCOs is quite evident and not in the national interest. Jawan/JCOs have been given step motherly treatment with their status, pay and allowances. They have been deliberately lowered over the decades. Every points raised by service chiefs, pertains to officers only what for Jawan/JCOs ? We need a very strong, dedicated and loyal group of Veterans to fight for our demands. Are you ready? Yes, together we can. Jai Hind!
Our Sincere thanks to Veteran Anil Kumar Bhadula
Officer like qualities(OLQ),God damn it!
ReplyDeleteLet them have human like qualities first
Sir, I fully agree with the m s p disparity it should be same be same for all members of armed forces and if required ready to fight legally.pl sugges
ReplyDeleteVery true sir, we ,the veterans, to take this issue with the Government, here the unity of the veteran is very important to bring all such negativity towards JCO/Jawans in eye of public and govt.
ReplyDeleteThis illtreatment of Jawans continues even after retirement , ECHS treats them differently it is something like schedule cast verses the so called high caste in Hindu society, even in jobs they ask required a commissioned officer. Please stop this discrimination and grow up
ReplyDeleteSir, it's true officer,s attitude towards JCOs/NCOs and not healthy and that is why this contentment they r getting all facilities like British officer whereas JCOs,NCOs have been degraded in all fields since 1947 With Regards Dr Amar Singh Yadav (A Veteran) A nationalist
ReplyDeleteThe thinking of officers about JCOs and Jawans is as of a Britishian about India before 1947. But such a disgust of indian armed forces officers who have same British attitude about Jawans. But the most unfortunate is the issue of closing eyes of our government towards injustice being done by officers with Jawans. Really shame on our indian system.
ReplyDeleteHappy new year and we fully agree with MSP disparity.
ReplyDeleteJawans are always loss due to following apartheid polices of MOD policy makers :-
ReplyDelete1. In all policy making forums including the pay- commission forums we are not having any representation rather not allowed to represent in the name of obedience.
2. As a corollary to the above point representatives speak only for officers.
3. Pay and perks of jawans of Western countries are not taken into account for deciding the pays of ORs/JCOs whereas for Officers it is always countered. For Example Honorable justice Mathur while discussing various facets of hard lives of Officers compares them with USA officer cadres.
4. In the Parliament no body speaks for ORs/JCOs whereas many had bespoke for cadres of officers. For them the real life of jawan is not known rather they understand that soldier means an officer.
That's why we must be together and fight for the right
DeleteMSP for the PBORs should be equal if not higher. Injustice!
ReplyDeletePlease advise all your friends,kith and kin and possibly the young men in particular not to join armed forces in any kind of bad situation they face as on now
ReplyDeleteI fully agree with this .
ReplyDeleteIllogic intotality,, chickenheads in decision making process it seems....
ReplyDeleteThe article is very good. Nicely written. Pls take it up with ministry of defense and the service HQ.
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Who will listen us? At least it should be 50% from the officers' MSP. There is no value of JCOs/OR in defence seeing such types of disparity.
ReplyDeleteThe things are very true so we must be together and form a union with the PBOR only for fighting against these systems. I am an ex Airmen and called some pbors to join with me and fight for the rights. and formed a union Federal bloc ex-servicemen ( PBOR) union which comes under All India Federal Bloc( the themes of Netaji Subashchandra boss) My contact number +919539246149 watsapp. There is hundreds of issues to be taken in front of authority through court or other means So join together and fight Jai hind.
ReplyDeleteI fully join with the opinion of George Cyril. .
ReplyDeleteThings are very true, only alternative to form a union esp together with PORP for fighting against these systems. This is what happened with Indian submariners. The officers mislead the pay commission that only officers are carrying the work load and risk in arm. The sailors just an onlooker. The 7CPC cut down submariner branch to general or in another word group from A to group B which effected in basic pay especially on the retired submariners.
I m also agree with you sir atleast msp should be equal for all ranks
ReplyDeleteEqual MSP for all
ReplyDeleteI am totaly agry with you.its same for our policymaker who created this type of disparities
ReplyDeleteShit them out....
ReplyDeleteThey officers r for nothing...
I fully agree with this MSP should be equal to all ranks. Only jawan is fighting with enemy and protect to the country from all danger so they should have get their correct entitlements
ReplyDeleteIs there anyone who should think about this after reading our voices. We can wake a people who is sleeping but we cannot wake him if he is acting of sleeping. So every thing is well planned and so decided with all the justifications in its support.
ReplyDeleteThings will go like this untill we will be following colonial rule.pbor has no right to protest for something wrong if he does that he will be treated as traitor.
ReplyDeleteWhen a cadet is shaping to an Officer, he is taught while discharging his/her service to keep in mind always: "Country in which we are living in comes first and always, welfare of the soldiers he/she commands come next, and own comfort comes last and always." This is a hypothesis which is not practical, instead it happens the opposite
ReplyDeleteThese things are in a flow from long back. So no point discussing it. As people after retiring can make a change but they later do not care for the people serving. People serving protest will only lead to mutiny.
ReplyDeleteAt least msp sud b equal..As that iz not rank pay..It's service pay ..I.e. military service pay
ReplyDeleteRight sir m agree with you
ReplyDeleteI fully agree with you
ReplyDeletedear veterans,
ReplyDeleteA soldier while in service has no voice but you have the voice to take up all the issues related to Jawans. Pursue the issues with Govt, through courts. As a veteran, you have a great responsibility to bear and instead of cursing the officers, I would suggest create an atmosphere, a voice, where every one, every citizen hear you. Regards.
I was invalid out of service on 2004 with disability pension 50% ,now I'm getting disability 2076Rs. Pls tell me ur suggestion as per 7th CPC commission
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ReplyDeleteDear friends I am also a retired (PBOR). This is really very-very unfortunate that for dying from the bullet of enemy we are kept at front and while giving rights and benefita we are kept at the last. May I ask our honourable Prime Minister sir, honourable supreme court and Indian Cabinet that why such injustice with us PBORs. May I say that you will change the colonial system of armed forces after a massacre like Bangladesh ? Dear sirs the time demands change and human beings demand equality if not then why Government is giving all kinds of reservations and financial benefits to the poor people of our society. But sad that none talks about upliftment of Jawans . With this negligible atritude of Government forces us PBORs to think that helping poor is a game of votes and if not then PBORs also must have been lifted to a respectable position but again and very painful to say that none bothers about PBORs. The issue is really serious and must be taken on priority else country might face a big probelm. Bharat Mata Ki Jai.
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