RTI TRANSFERRED TO CGDA

DESW/CGDA/TRIPAS Dear Sir, Kindly furnish me a copy of rank wise, group wise, length of service wise live pension data of 2018 retirees received form Army, Navy & Air force pay cells for the revision of OROP w.e.f 01/07/2019. Charges if any for copy as per rules will be sent on demand. Yours faithfully

	DEXSW/R/2019/50932
Name	M B CHANDRAN MENON
Date of filing	07/09/2019
Public Authority	Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare
Status	REQUEST TRANSFERRED TO OTHER PUBLIC AUTHORITY
Date of action	24/09/2019
Details of Public Autority :- Controller General of Defence Accounts (CGDA). vide registration number :- CGDFA/R/2019/80339 respectively. Note:- Further details will be available on viewing the status of the above-mentioned new request registration number. View Status of CGDFA/R/2019/80339
Nodal Officer Details :-
Telephone Number	01123012593
Email Id	us-ic@desw.gov.in

50% of basic pay as family pension for less than 7 years Service of deceased> Amendment in Rule 54 of Pension Rules

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances & Pensions

23-September-2019 18:46 IST

 Government amends Rule 54 of CCS (Pension) Rules, 1972

 On death of a Government servant while in service, the family is entitled to a family pension in accordance with Rule 54 of the Central Civil Services (Pension) Rules, 1972. The family pension was payable at enhanced rate of 50% of the pay last drawn for a period of 10 years, if the Government servant had rendered a continuous service of not less than seven years; thereafter the rate of family pension was 30% of the pay last drawn. In case the Government servant had rendered a service of less than seven years before his death, the rate of family pension was 30% from the beginning and family pension at enhanced rate of 50% of last pay drawn was not payable to the family.

 The Government felt that the need for family pension at enhanced rate is more in the case of a Government servant who dies early in his career, as his pay at the initial phase of service is much less. The Government has, therefore, amended Rule 54 of the Central Civil Services (Pension) Rules, 1972 by a notification dated 19th September, 2019. As per the amended Rule 54, the family of a Government servant, who dies within seven years of joining service, will also be eligible for family pension at enhanced rate of 50% of last pay drawn, for a period of 10 years.

The above amendment would be effective from 1st October, 2019. However, the families of Government servants who died before completion of service of seven years within 10 years before 1st October, 2019, will also be eligible for family pension at enhanced rates with effect from 1st October, 2019.

 The benefit of amended provisions would be available to the families of all Government servants, including the personnel of CAPFs, in the unfortunate event of their death within seven years of joining Government service.

 
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, September 24
The central government on Tuesday clarified there was no proposal to tinker with the retirement age of central government officials.
A section of social media has been abuzz for a while about DoPT approving a change in superannuation rules.
Official sources toss however said: “The rumours circulating in the social media about DoPT having given clearance to a proposal for reducing the age of superannuation of central Government employees with effect from April 1, 2020, are unfounded and baseless. It has been clarified that there is no such proposal”.

कोयले के नाम से फौजी जवान - जेसीओ के 1 लाख करोड़ रूपए किसने खाए

A TRANSITION FROM THE DREAM LAND TO REALITY

THE WAY AHEAD

There is great brainstorming in VOP chatbox since past few days about snatching away weightage and pro-rata max. of the scale from us. I wonder whether those were FACILITIES or DEPRIVATION of 50% LPD. I will give my example how I (15yr X-gp Sgt) was deprived by the  so-called facilities. Weightage was of course a facility but pro-rata of max. eaten away much more than the gain.

IV CPC (1986) fixed my pension Rs.564/- as per weightage and pro-rata maximum of scale. But if I could get 50% of my LPD, I would be much much more benefitted. The pay scale for Sgt of my group was: 1460-25-1710. Even with nil increment I could be entitled for  Rs.730/- (30% more) by LPD system.

V CPC (1996) fixed my pension Rs.1478/- as per weightage and pro-rata maximum of scale. But if I could get 50% of my LPD, I would be much more benefitted. The pay scale for Sgt of my group was:  4670-85-5945. Even with nil increment the pension entitled could be Rs.2335/- (58% more) by LPD system.

Pensioners retired after Sixth CPC (2006) started getting 50% of LPD. The weightage and pro-rata of max was withdrawn but, MSP, Grade pay and X-pay (where applicable) were added to Basic Pay for Pension calculation. Can anybody show that by LPD system of VI CPC, someone's pension got reduced compared to older system?

The problem started after OROP, since OROP was not conceded to post -OROP pensioners. So after 01.07.2014, many pensioners started getting lesser than past pensioners. JCO & Hony ranks are worstly affected. Hopefully, during 2nd OROP revision, those who are getting less will be enhanced to OROP-1 X 2.57 level.

When weightage and Pro-rata was removed, nobody raised any objection. I am not aware of any objection raised from any quarter. Rather, Post VI CPC pensioners were happy because there was substantial increase in pension. Now after 13 years if the demand of weightage is raised, I doubt anybody will listen. It has been well explained in VI CPC report that weightage was given to offset the reduction of pension by Pro-rata as ESMs are retiring in early age. So as Pro-rata was removed, weightage is also removed.

As I said earlier, in OROP-2 revision, lower ranks will have some gain. From OROP-3 (if at all it is there), nobody will have any gain. We have reached almost at the end of OROP-path. We have to think of plausible demands in future, which are logical and can hold the ground of justice. Equal MSP and Enhancement of pension after 20 years of retirement are two such issues, on which we should concentrate our future demands.

An Article By Biswasda

OROP#जवानो का नाम आगे बढ़ा कर,फिर से सरकारी खजाने को लूटने का इरादा

OROP: Other Ranks के साथ साथ JCO के साथ भी हुई CGDA की नाइंसाफी

CGDA IS MISGUIDING DEFENCE MINISTER ON OROP

ROP REVISION SCENARIO:- आरटीआई के जवाब में किया विश्लेषण

हवलदार और समकक्ष तक रैंक को ओआरओपी-2 में अधिकतम लाभ मिलेगा। कम सेवा--अधिक लाभ. एक्स-जीपी ईएसएम को कुछ अतिरिक्त लाभ होगा क्योंकि 7 सीपीसी में एक्स-पे बढ़ा दिया गया है। कम सेवा वाले नायब सूबेदारों को सीमांत लाभ होंगे। उच्च रैंक और उच्च QS के लिए:- मैं कुछ भी सकारात्मक नहीं कह सकता. ओआरओपी के बाद पेंशनरों को पूर्व ओआरओपी से कम पेंशन मिल रही है, उन्हें उसी स्तर पर लाया जाएगा। उच्च रैंक और उच्च क्यूएस के लिए, यदि अधिकतम न्यूनतम का औसत किसी की वर्तमान पेंशन से नीचे आता है, तो उसकी वर्तमान पेंशन की रक्षा की जाएगी।  यह मेरी जंगली भविष्यवाणी नहीं है, लेकिन डेटा के विश्लेषण पर आधारित है. ESMs जो सीमांत या कोई लाभ होगा निश्चित रूप से निराश हो जाएगा, लेकिन वहाँ किसी को दोष नहीं है. आखिरकार, ओआरओपी वर्तमान पेंशनभोगियों के स्तर पर पूर्व पेंशनभोगियों की पेंशन लाने के बारे में है। यदि वर्तमान पेंशनभोगी कम आ रहे हैं, तो कोई समिति क्या कर सकती है? 

01.07.2014 के बाद ओआरओपी-1 के बाद कुल 42506 एनबी सूबेदार सेवानिवृत्त हुए हैं। उनमें से 35732 (84.06%) पूर्व-ओआरओपी पेंशनभोगियों की तुलना में कम आकर्षित हो रहे हैं। ये 100% प्रामाणिक आंकड़े हैं। अब आप ओआरओपी-2 में एनबी सूबेदारों की वृद्धि की संभावना को समझ सकते हैं। हालांकि, कम सेवा वाले कुछ एनबी सब्डरों को मामूली लाभ होगा। X-Gp Nb Subeders भी कुछ लाभ होगा. ओआरओपी के बाद सेवानिवृत्त होने वाले सिपाही 5.05%, नाइक 1.93% और हवलदार 3.01% पूर्व ओआरओपी पेंशनभोगियों की तुलना में कम हो रहे हैं। इसलिए इन तीन रैंकों और उनके समकक्ष रैंकों के लिए पर्याप्त वृद्धि होगी। एक्स-जी पी वृद्धि के लिए थोड़ा और अधिक हो जाएगा।
 

OROP REVISION SCENARIO :- AN ANALYSIS BY BISWASDA FROM THE RTI REPLY RECEIVED BY HIM

Ranks up to Havildar and equivalents will get maximum benefit in OROP-2. Lesser the service--more the benefit. X-Gp ESMs will have some extra benefit as x-pay has been hiked in 7 CPC. Nb Subedars with lesser service will have marginal benefits. For higher ranks and higher QS :- I can not say anything positive. Post-OROP pensioners getting lesser pension than Pre-OROP will be brought to same level. For Higher ranks and higher QS, if the average of max & min falls below one's present pension, his present pension will be protected.
 This is not my wild prediction, but based on analysis of data. ESMs who will have marginal or no benefit will surely be disappointed, but there is nobody to blame on. After all, OROP is all about bringing the pension of past pensioners to the level of present pensioners. If present pensioners are drawing less, what can any committee do?
 Total 42506 Nb Subedars have retired after OROP-1- i.e., after 01.07.2014. Out of them 35732 (84.06%) are drawing lesser than Pre-OROP pensioners. These are 100% authentic figures. Now you can understand the possibility of hike of NB Subedars in OROP-2. However, Some of the NB Subeders with lesser service will have marginal benefits. X-Gp Nb Subeders also will have some benefits.
Out of post-OROP retirees, Sepoy 5.05%, Naik 1.93% and Havildar 3.01% are getting lesser than Pre-OROP pensioners. So there will be substantial increase for these three ranks and their equivalent ranks. For X-Gp hike will be a bit more.

OROP REVISION STATUS SHOWN BELOW - A 100 DAYS COMPLETION ACHIEVEMENT BY NEW GOVT

A Cartoon by our Biswasda

RTI REQUEST FILED FOR LIVE DATA 2018 FROM CGDA

RTI Registration No.DEXSW/R/2019/50932
Public Authority-DEPARTMENT OF EX-SERVICEMEN WELFARE
Description of Information Sought To DESW/CGDA/TRIPAS Dear Sir, Kindly furnish me a copy of rank wise, group wise, length of service wise live pension data of 2018 retirees received form Army, Navy & Air force pay cells for the revision of OROP w.e.f 01/07/2019. Charges if any for copy as per rules will be sent on demand. Yours faithfully M B Chandran Menon Ex- Sgt, Concerned CPIO Nodal Officer Supporting document (only pdf upto 1 MB) Supporting document not provided

SHORT BRIEFING BY BISWASDA FROM THE VOLUMINOUS RTI REPLY RECEIVED BY HIM

UPDATE   ON  OROP-2  REVISION  AS PER  RTI  REPLY  RECEIVED  BY  EX-SGT.  M. BISWAS

Today after long wait I got the so-called 107-page document from Ministry of Defence in reply of my RTI. As it is not possible to scan and publish the scanned copies of such voluminous data, I will give my fallowing observations and impressions for the information of eagerly waiting ESMs.

1.     Most of the information provided are inter-departmental correspondence before formation of OROP-2 committee. Majority of these documents are already available in the environment in terms of my earlier RTI reply and RTI reply received by Air Marshall Savur (Retd.)

2.     OMJC Repot is not tagged to OROP-2 and OROP-2 committee will not take OMJC Report into account for revision.

3.     Two meetings have taken place by OROP-2 Committee and the deliberations have been forwarded to RM, RRM, Sec. to RM, ESW and many others for their comments. Nobody has replied yet and it seems that nobody is in a hurry to settle the OROP-2 issues.

4.     I have not got the minutes of the OROP-2 committee meetings but from the inter-departmental correspondence I came to know that CGDA has raised two issues. One: the terms of reference of OROP-2 committee were to fix the modalities and methodologies of OROP-2. So they are not obliged to make the table. Two: there is no officer of TRIPAS in the committee, so how it is possible to reach a conclusion for OROP-2?

5.     Letters have been sent to Army, Navy & Air Force pay-cells to supply latest live data of 2018 retirees and presumably they are working on it.

6.     I found the role of DESW is positive, as they are sending reminders that the stipulated period of one month for submission of report is surpassed.

7.     DESW is kind enough to give me copies of a few confidential letters, which I can not reveal here for legal reasons.

8.     My overall impression is: OROP-2 train is slow-moving but surely on track and we may have to wait for a few more months to know the outcome and get our arrears credited to our Bank Accounts.

PCDA Circular No. 626: Dual Family Pension i.e. OFP from Military Side, SFP/ LFP for re-employed Military service

THE PRINCIPAL CONTROLLER OF DEFENCE ACCOUNTS (PENSIONS)

DRAUPADI GHAT, ALLAHABAD- 211014

Circular No: 626

Dated: 19 Aug 2019

To.
The OI/C
Records/PAOs (ORs)

Subject:- Implementation of the Government decision regarding grant of dual family pension i.e. Ordinary family pension (OFP) from Military service as well as Special family pension (SFP)/Liberalised family pension (LFP) for re-employed military service-reg.

Reference:- This office Circular No. circular no. 284 dated 18.09.2001, circular No. 504 dated 17.01.2013, Circular no. 513 dated 19.07.2013

As per Gol, MoD letter No. 01(05)/2010-D(Pen/Policy) dated 17.01.2013 (Cir No. 504 dated 17.01.2013), it was decided that the families of Armed Forces Personnel who got re-employed in Civil Departments/PSUs/Autonomous Bodies/Local Funds of Central/State Governments after getting retired from military service and were in receipt of military pension till death, shall be allowed to draw Ordinary Family Pension w.e.f 24.09.2012 from military side in addition to the family pension, if any, authorized from the re-employed civil department subject to fulfillment of other prescribed conditions as hithertofore.

2) It was further clarified vide Gol, MoD letter No. 10(17)/2012-D(Pen/Pol) dated 21.03.2013 (Cir No. 513 dated 19.07.2013) that the dual family pension is allowable irrespective of whether re-employment was in civil or military department and family pensioners of DSC/TA personnel are also covered in the ambit of the Gol, MoD letter No. 01(05)/2010-D(Pen/Policy) dated 17.01.2013.

3) The issue regarding extending the admissibility of SFP/LEP as dual family pension in case of death attributable to military service is under consideration to Govt. It is now clarified vide Govt. of India, Ministry of Defence letter No. PC-2(6)/2013-D (Pen/Pol) dated 08.07.2019 that the provision of two family pensions, one in respect of military/civil service and SEP/LEP for re employed military service is also applicable. SFP/LFP if any, would be admissible in terms of GoI, MoD letter no. 1(2)/97/D(Pen-C) dated 31.01.2001 on death of a pension who was re-employed in military service and if his death is attributable to military service, in addition to ordinary family pension in respect of the previous military/civil service with following conditions.

a) Where, however, on death of the re-employed ex-serviceman if the family is eligible for SFP/LFP for first service family pension for second spell of service would be OFP.

b) Special family pension/Liberalised family pension shall be granted only in respect of one service and in no case, SFP/LFP will be granted for both the Services.

4) The financial benefits in the past cases will accrue will effect from 24.09.2012.

5) This circular has been uploaded on this office website www.pcdapension.nic.in for dissemination across the all concerned.

6) Please acknowledge receipt.

No.Gts/Tech/0114/XXXVIII

Dated: 19.08.2019

Yashasvi Kumar

DCDA (P)

COMPARATIVE CHART PREPARED BY CGDA WITH LIVE DATA OF 2018