tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post3234189020006237596..comments2024-03-22T04:20:19.149+05:30Comments on . : IESM MEETING WITH RM M B Chandran Menon. M.com.,AIII,DMEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12408807503177898470noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-15886263385413468422016-04-19T14:46:46.430+05:302016-04-19T14:46:46.430+05:30As per table No 7 of circular No 555 dated 04 Febr...As per table No 7 of circular No 555 dated 04 February 2016 basic pension of Honorary Naib Subedar & Naib Subedar of X group for service 24 years or 26 years has fixed in same rate i.e. Rs 11138 but basic pension of Honorary Naib Subedar & Naib Subedar of Y group is different. This difference is Rs 1004/- .<br />As per table No 7 of circular No 555 dated 04 February 2016 for 24 years service Y group Honorary Naib Subedar basic pension has fixed at Rs 8425/- and Naib Subedar basic pension has fixed on Rs 9429/- which is not understood in OROP and it is injustice with the Honorary Naib Subedar of Y group.<br />Hony Rank of Naib Subedar granted to Havildar will be notionally considered as a promotion to the higher grade pay and will be allowed notionally for the purposes of fixation of pension only with effect from 01-1-2006. The said decision has been communicated vide Ministry of Defence letter NO. 1(8)/2008-D (Pen/ Policy) dated 12-6-2009.<br />As per table No 7 of circular No 555 dated 04 February 2016 24 years service of X group Naib Subedar & Honorary Naib Subedar pension are equal, so 24 years service of Y group Naib Subedar & Honorary Naib Subedar pension also should be equal, please consider it.<br />Keeping view of the above, You are requested to do the needful.<br />Thanking you with warm regards,<br /><br />Yours obediently soldier,<br /><br /><br />2879637W Honorary Naib Subedar Vijai Kumar, PPO No-S/29763/2006(ARMY)<br />vijai kumar dudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12339778500933957303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-64183475933118356872014-12-12T12:22:05.893+05:302014-12-12T12:22:05.893+05:30This is just repetition of tarikh par tarikh ie co...This is just repetition of tarikh par tarikh ie conference after conference as the modalities are being worked out years after years . Only solution is to out source Babudom to TCS or Infosys .only then modalities will be worked out. Obama has hit nail on its head when he called for<br />change in Indian bureaucratic inertiaAjit Dattanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-21245498781966886202014-12-11T01:25:19.604+05:302014-12-11T01:25:19.604+05:30It is great tnat a Minister in Modi Govt asks Ques...It is great tnat a Minister in Modi Govt asks Questions to understand the issue. Now that he has some answers to our Questions, he should now ask INTELLIGENT questions to Bureaucrats to seek factual answers before deciding on the issue. That really decides what this Def Minister is compared to Antonyji & Jaitleyji. dattatreyahgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-28772332072645583042014-12-10T17:56:32.709+05:302014-12-10T17:56:32.709+05:30iesm working with great sence but those who all ar...iesm working with great sence but those who all are involve for implimentation orop all are shacking hand each other. but implimentation authority off the airAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-42532152227723905592014-12-10T16:52:51.369+05:302014-12-10T16:52:51.369+05:301. President Indian Ex-Services League alo...1. President Indian Ex-Services League along with IESL delegate comprising of AVM RP Mishra and Lt Cdr BD Sharma met Raksha Mantri on 10 Dec 2014 at 1100 hours to deliberate the issue of OROP. Rajya Raksha Mantri Shri Rao Inderjit Singh along with all concerned official of MOD was present. Also representative of war disabled Association and Air Force Association were present.<br /><br /> <br /><br />2. At the outset the Raksha Mantri stated that the Government is very clear on the definition of OROP. This is the commitment of our Government to grant it as early as possible. However the time frame cannot be given. The RM further stated that any conceptual differences if any can be resolved now since all the MOD official as well as registered Veterans Organisations representatives are present. The issue was discussed at length. President IESL clarified that definition has already been accepted in the Parliament and we stick to it. OROP means uniform pension be paid to the Armed Forces personnel retiring in the same rank with the same length of service irrespective of their date of retirement and any future enhancement in the rates of pension to be automatically passed to the past pensioners. The RM queried as to what should be the frequency of review of pension amount. President IESL clarified that it has to be done on annual basis. AVM RP Mishra further clarified that this revision is only upto Dec 2015 as 7th CPC has already been formed and their recommendations would be effective from Ist of Jan 2016.<br /><br /> <br /><br />3. Secretary ESW mentioned that till 1973, standard pension was paid for standard service with reduction in the amount for each deficient year of service. With this revision of pension will be necessitated only with every pay commission. AVM RP Mishra suggested that pension for all ranks may be made proportionate to pension of Chiefs. This would simplify the matter.<br /><br /> <br /><br />4. In addition a few more issues like second employment to the ESM and peculiar service conditions and the difficulties encountered by the defence personnel were also highlighted by the President IESL. The same were heard patiently by the RM and he stated that due attention will be given to the various problems of serving as well as the retired defence personnel. This is on the agenda of our Government.<br /><br /> <br /><br />5. After detailed discussions and question-answer session, the RM seemed to be positive and comfortable with answers given by IESL delegation. Thereafter, RM asked additional FA (DS) whether she was clear on all aspects. She gave answer in affirmative. <br /><br /> <br /><br />6. It was extremely heartening to notice positive vibes from the RM and his sense of urgency and commitment on OROP.<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /> 7.Brief about OROP is at<br />https://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/22359015/77675503/name/BRIEF%20ON%20OROP%2Edoc<br /><br />8 The meeting lasted for about an hour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-22022092512774403142014-12-10T16:34:52.689+05:302014-12-10T16:34:52.689+05:30Nothing can be predicted till the notification is ...Nothing can be predicted till the notification is issued according to the definition of OROP as approved by the Govt. The announcement of OROP by UPA Govt at the fag end was only another gimmick eyeing on the votes of Defence personnel and their families. Now the BJP Govt has also approved the definition of OROP in principle. Then what and where is the hitch? Since Jul 14 the issue is in a standstill, due to the crooked and meanminded "BABAUS' in the MoD. Political leadership to be only blamed for this situation.<br /><br /><br />\<br />,<br /><br />\<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-28598770928124846152014-12-10T13:59:24.015+05:302014-12-10T13:59:24.015+05:30Non commitment by RM to delegation, it may not tak...Non commitment by RM to delegation, it may not take as assurance for implementation of OROP but still we have hope for its implementation within a month. The way it has been committed during election by PM but no enthusiasm for implementation. Let's hope. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-18516419961432215562014-12-10T11:51:54.403+05:302014-12-10T11:51:54.403+05:30Dear All
Hope the same is true this time , we do n...Dear All<br />Hope the same is true this time , we do not have efficient work force to do the work out figures of funds required to meet OROP, as the same is not required for them ( politicians and bureaucrats , can any one from IESM or ESMs work out the figures ? please do and publish the same as on date then govt can understand the amount involvement in orop if req we will help pm and fm by donating from us like we are donating our life for the country and for them, please help and post at the earliest. Ji hind keep hope God is there for poor soldiers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7817212952570625353.post-25368881196247349052014-12-10T11:14:09.260+05:302014-12-10T11:14:09.260+05:30Let`s hope that long struggle for implementation o...Let`s hope that long struggle for implementation of OROP comes to an end. Hoping its implementation with in a month, Though it is very hard to believe on these politicians / bureaucrats Let`s hope this time something positive and its implementation with in a month. Hope for the bestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com